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Jim Hemenway's avatar

And another thing more generally about foreign students. My son is in a graduate program w/substantial numbers of foreign students, mostly Chinese. His program went out of their way to also recruit American students too. However, large % of foreigners whether in academic programs or the workplace (think tech) have displacement effects that push smart American students away. The fact that they pay "full fare" tuition may have some benefits, but also inculcates in them a 'tude, which we also see WRT immigration. Like w/immigration generally, we need less of this.

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Here in Canada the source of the problem was circa 2010 when Conservative PM Harper basically took the Romney approach of easily granting permanent residence to graduates of Canadian colleges and universities. This created a gold rush of mostly Indian students who would sign up for pretty much any program anywhere, including the Canadian equivalent of junior colleges in the middle of nowhere. Some rural colleges even set up satellite campuses in the big city run by private contractors.

The results were countless bogus foreign students who barely put up the pretence of studying and mostly focused on driving Ubers and so on. They flooded the unskilled job market and crammed into rental housing, driving up rent. A total disaster. One is currently going on trial for murdering a couple in a home invasion after less than a month in Canada. Now they are closing the barn door by taking away the promise of permanent residence after graduating. We are getting protests from these fake students, collapse in enrollment and lots of bogus refugee claims.

Lessons for the US: 1. Don’t trust colleges to uphold standards when money is involved. 2. There are a limited number of high quality students who can pay. After that point you just get immigration rackets and some real dregs, mostly from India and Pakistan. I don’t think this promise of vast numbers of Chinese students is realistic.

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