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Ariel A's avatar

On cutting science funding: I’m a Harvard and Caltech grad who has been doing research and teaching at Arizona State University for 21 years. Your suggestion of flowing federal research funding away from a few prestigious institutions is great, except for two things, below.

First, decentralization of funding seems to me to have already been a general trend for the past generation or two. This is anecdotal - I don’t have the data at my fingertips - but it’s how and why I’ve been able to build a first-rate research program at what used to be thought of as a party school - and how such a school has been able to ascend the ranks of high-impact institutions. When I was a grad student, you pretty much had to be at a “prestige” institution to build a first-rate career. That hasn’t been true for a long time. More such decentralization would be great, but this should be understood as “more, please” not a pivot from past practice. (If there are data that prove me wrong, then I’ll withdraw this critique).

Second, and more importantly, what you propose is decidedly not what is happening under this Administration. The proposed cuts to overhead rates damage the entire research enterprise, and in fact hurt hardest those institutions that do not have wealthy alumni who might pick up some of the slack of infrastructure costs - which is to say, non-elite institutions doing research. At ASU, for example, we’ve expanded our labs through bond issues backed by our federal overhead income. At Harvard, large donors can and do help fund the facilities. There’s been no suggestion of which I’m aware to modulate these cuts based on institutional wealth or other “elite” measures. The blunt cuts to NSF, NASA, and so many other agencies similarly are not modulated in any way to spare or buffer the damage beyond the elite institutions. It’s an all-out assault, across the board, harming all research-intensive institutions. The elite institutions can surely keep it up regardless. The rest of us? It’s a dicier proposition, ultimately dependent on the will of state legislatures and governors, and the latitude they give to university leaders to change the ways the universities finance research.

So, great idea, in the category of “if only it were so”. Or rather, “if only the Administration you support wasn’t doing pretty much the opposite”. Instead of talking to an economist, who has never run or worked in a laboratory, talk to someone who knows a thing or two about the realities of research funding and university management outside of elite institutions! Get ASU Pres. Michael Crow… (It is ironic to see you of all people, Oren, ground your thoughts on this topic in the thoughts of an elite economist, as though they are relevant to what’s really going on).

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Brian Villanueva's avatar

You're assuming that the goal is to make science funding more efficient and effective. I'm not sure that's accurate. It appears to be mostly performative: anti-wokeness and revenge against the libs.

It's rather like Trump's immigration raids. Mandatory e-verify with major fines for hiring illegals and imprisonment for business owners who refused to stop would be far more effective by drying up job opportunities. But people who leave of their own accord don't produce photo ops.

Similarly, there are lots of quiet ways (that would also fight wokeness) to make science funding better. But Trump prefers loud and performative instead of quiet and effective. The P.T. Barnum comparison is accurate.

(Note, I say this as someone who voted for him all 3 times, is glad he won, and supports an America First agenda. I'm just clear-eyed that the success of that agenda is as often in spite of Trump as it is because of him.)

BTW: Ian Fletcher made the optimal tariff argument 25 years ago (when it was very unpopular) in Free Trade Doesn't Work. He doesn't get credit for it, but the Reagan aphorism about credit rather applies here.

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