Sigh. I give up if Oren et al think the deportation debacle we’re witnessing is merely about economic statistics. I suspect like most establishment elites, they haven’t ventured far from their safe spaces. This isn’t a question of labor force participation. It’s a question of human decency and our character as a nation.
Oren, they sent a swat team with a video crew to arrest the sandwich man for gods sake…after he offered to turn himself in. And why the masks? Why the foreign prisons? Why the lack of due process? Maybe plucking moms out of school pickup lines is cool with Commonplace. Not me.
And BTW, the year+ old poll cited is not just old, it came from a time when voters thought deportation was about the violent criminals Don rambled about. Today, his polling is underwater on immigration as they seize the guys weed whacking at Home Depot. Maybe the immigration czar taking 50k in a brown bag piled on top of the cruelty made a difference? None of it sounds very Christian, does it?
Welcome to the “new” right. Its leader (for whom two of his three wives are immigrants) tells us these fellow humans are "vermin". An "infestation" that's "poisoning the blood" of our nation.
Anyone at Commonplace remember which "leaders" from history used such terms?
Human decency is served by creating the economic conditions that allow Americans to get a leg up from poverty and build a life that supports their families. The wage and salary suppression caused by cheap illegally imported labor has been immensely destructive to poor and working Americans, most particularly the classes of demoralized people who have been trapped in either dependency or crime. Charity begins at home and the truly moral position is to create the economic conditions that will allow upward mobility for Americans.
In addition, we wouldn’t have nearly the degree of the messy business of deportation if “Joe Biden” hadn’t imported millions. So cast the blame where it is due.
Thoughtful people can argue forever about the economic implications of Don's actions. None of those arguments excuse the cruelty and lack of due process. Especially from self-described Christians. For reference, read the Pope's response to JD's "charity begins at home" comment.
Obama deported three times as many people as Don in their respective first terms, but there were no masked thugs, helicopter raids, video crews, or foreign prisons. If Don was serious about addressing this longstanding, bipartisan problem, he wouldn't have torpedoed the bipartisan reform bill last year for crass political reasons.
And if he had a shred of decency, he wouldn't use the terms made famous by the worst leaders in history. Do you recall why those terms were used?
Oh Oren. . you just don't get it. The debate that Americans really need to have isn't over the right-wing populist policies you espouse and self-styled WSJ-reading-Paul-Ryan-small-government-conservatives. The debate should be over which segment of America is benefitting the most from Trump's economic policies.
Maybe you should talk to David Sacks about this? He's been steering critical tech policy on AI and Crypto in a way that directly benefits him and his billionaire friends. As a special WH advisor, he suggested hosting an "AI Summit" that would require sponsors to pay $1M each to his podcast, "All In", in order to be invited to an exclusive dinner. This was so brazen that even the WH pushed back on this, but remind me: How is this helping the average American in Erie, PA?
Oh, that's right. They are benefitting from having to pay *only* 20% of the tariffs costs that are apparently being passed through from importers. What a great deal.
Abraham Lincoln: “Give us a protective tariff, and we will have the greatest nation on earth.”
Teddy Roosevelt: “Thank God I am not a free-trader. In this country, pernicious indulgence in the doctrine of free trade seems inevitably to produce fatty degeneration of the moral fibre.”
George Washington signed the Tariff Act on July 4, 1789
Every government has billionaire advisors. The difference is that Trump is open and honest about them. Singapore makes a point to enrich its politicians to ensure better economic outcomes. That's how companies operate, right? The average person in Erie, PA, doesn't care about billionaires; they care about having a good-paying job, growing wealth, and a promising future. That's what these policies will begin to yield in a few years. The only time people start to get mad about billionaires is when they themselves can't make progress.
Singapore pays its politicians high salaries (relative to other countries) but they are banned from making money from any outside enterprises. This means Singaporean ministers can't do things like issue crypto shit-coins that enrich them and their families or accept luxury jet donations from Qatar.
I still can’t understand the policy of price supports for rare earths used in tech whose CEOs are all multibillionaires but not for soy beans and other crops where farmers have suicide rate 3x national average. Also note Trumps mega backstepping on tariffs. The astounding incomprehensability of his policies is astounding. That is why real investment (NOT buying back stocks) is not happening.
There was no 'backstepping' on tariffs. We have the highest tariff rate since 1934. America literally built its wealth under some of the highest tariffs in the world until after World War II.
The only people benefitting from Trump's economic policies are the billionaire tech bros who've wormed their way into Trump's admin. All the populist economic stuff is merely lipstick on one of the ugliest, most brazen and corrupt pillaging of America we've ever seen.
The most brazen and corrupt pillaging of America we've ever seen was free trade, creating enormous trade deficits and selling the nation out from under us to foreigners: https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/growing.pdf
Sigh. I give up if Oren et al think the deportation debacle we’re witnessing is merely about economic statistics. I suspect like most establishment elites, they haven’t ventured far from their safe spaces. This isn’t a question of labor force participation. It’s a question of human decency and our character as a nation.
Oren, they sent a swat team with a video crew to arrest the sandwich man for gods sake…after he offered to turn himself in. And why the masks? Why the foreign prisons? Why the lack of due process? Maybe plucking moms out of school pickup lines is cool with Commonplace. Not me.
And BTW, the year+ old poll cited is not just old, it came from a time when voters thought deportation was about the violent criminals Don rambled about. Today, his polling is underwater on immigration as they seize the guys weed whacking at Home Depot. Maybe the immigration czar taking 50k in a brown bag piled on top of the cruelty made a difference? None of it sounds very Christian, does it?
Welcome to the “new” right. Its leader (for whom two of his three wives are immigrants) tells us these fellow humans are "vermin". An "infestation" that's "poisoning the blood" of our nation.
Anyone at Commonplace remember which "leaders" from history used such terms?
Human decency is served by creating the economic conditions that allow Americans to get a leg up from poverty and build a life that supports their families. The wage and salary suppression caused by cheap illegally imported labor has been immensely destructive to poor and working Americans, most particularly the classes of demoralized people who have been trapped in either dependency or crime. Charity begins at home and the truly moral position is to create the economic conditions that will allow upward mobility for Americans.
In addition, we wouldn’t have nearly the degree of the messy business of deportation if “Joe Biden” hadn’t imported millions. So cast the blame where it is due.
Thoughtful people can argue forever about the economic implications of Don's actions. None of those arguments excuse the cruelty and lack of due process. Especially from self-described Christians. For reference, read the Pope's response to JD's "charity begins at home" comment.
Obama deported three times as many people as Don in their respective first terms, but there were no masked thugs, helicopter raids, video crews, or foreign prisons. If Don was serious about addressing this longstanding, bipartisan problem, he wouldn't have torpedoed the bipartisan reform bill last year for crass political reasons.
And if he had a shred of decency, he wouldn't use the terms made famous by the worst leaders in history. Do you recall why those terms were used?
Oh Oren. . you just don't get it. The debate that Americans really need to have isn't over the right-wing populist policies you espouse and self-styled WSJ-reading-Paul-Ryan-small-government-conservatives. The debate should be over which segment of America is benefitting the most from Trump's economic policies.
Maybe you should talk to David Sacks about this? He's been steering critical tech policy on AI and Crypto in a way that directly benefits him and his billionaire friends. As a special WH advisor, he suggested hosting an "AI Summit" that would require sponsors to pay $1M each to his podcast, "All In", in order to be invited to an exclusive dinner. This was so brazen that even the WH pushed back on this, but remind me: How is this helping the average American in Erie, PA?
Oh, that's right. They are benefitting from having to pay *only* 20% of the tariffs costs that are apparently being passed through from importers. What a great deal.
Abraham Lincoln: “Give us a protective tariff, and we will have the greatest nation on earth.”
Teddy Roosevelt: “Thank God I am not a free-trader. In this country, pernicious indulgence in the doctrine of free trade seems inevitably to produce fatty degeneration of the moral fibre.”
George Washington signed the Tariff Act on July 4, 1789
What did those great men have to say about billionaire government advisors steering economic policy in a way that benefits them directly?
Every government has billionaire advisors. The difference is that Trump is open and honest about them. Singapore makes a point to enrich its politicians to ensure better economic outcomes. That's how companies operate, right? The average person in Erie, PA, doesn't care about billionaires; they care about having a good-paying job, growing wealth, and a promising future. That's what these policies will begin to yield in a few years. The only time people start to get mad about billionaires is when they themselves can't make progress.
Singapore pays its politicians high salaries (relative to other countries) but they are banned from making money from any outside enterprises. This means Singaporean ministers can't do things like issue crypto shit-coins that enrich them and their families or accept luxury jet donations from Qatar.
I still can’t understand the policy of price supports for rare earths used in tech whose CEOs are all multibillionaires but not for soy beans and other crops where farmers have suicide rate 3x national average. Also note Trumps mega backstepping on tariffs. The astounding incomprehensability of his policies is astounding. That is why real investment (NOT buying back stocks) is not happening.
There was no 'backstepping' on tariffs. We have the highest tariff rate since 1934. America literally built its wealth under some of the highest tariffs in the world until after World War II.
The only people benefitting from Trump's economic policies are the billionaire tech bros who've wormed their way into Trump's admin. All the populist economic stuff is merely lipstick on one of the ugliest, most brazen and corrupt pillaging of America we've ever seen.
The most brazen and corrupt pillaging of America we've ever seen was free trade, creating enormous trade deficits and selling the nation out from under us to foreigners: https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/growing.pdf