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Brian Villanueva's avatar

I loved this one. I got into it with Don years ago on CafeHayek.

I had just finished a book called Free Trade Doesn't Work by Ian Fletcher and wasn't sure whether Fletcher's argument held water. I decided to use the internet to throw Fletcher at a legitimate academic economist and rabid free trader. I chose Don Bourdeax.

The argument I used with him? "When we import something, we can pay for it with stuff we make now, stuff we make later, or stuff we've already made. The first one is exports; the second is bonds; the third is hard assets. #2 has to be paid back and #3 you will eventually run out of, so you should attempt to maximize 1." This was Fletcher's basic case that I found so convincing and eye opening.

Don didn't. He deleted the comments on that blog post, but after going back and forth with him 4-5 times (using Fletcher's arguments) Don was simply talking himself in circles and saying nothing. I finally decided Fletcher must be right since the smartest libertarian economist in the room didn't have an answer.

Don's final response to me: https://cafehayek.com/2017/10/free-trade-not-founded-religion.html (as a separate post) sounds a lot like his responses to you: "it's obvious and you're just too dumb to see it." Isaac Asimov once opined, "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent", but I think personal insults are a good indicator too.

So in a weird way, Don Bourdeaux helped make me skeptical about free trade.

BTW: For all social media's problems, the internet is amazing. How else can a schmuck from Sacramento have a public debate with the chair of the George Mason economics department? (And, if I do say so myself, kick his butt -- with help from Ian.)

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Brian D. O’Leary's avatar

"The investment, innovation, jobs, capacity, skill, and so on associated with the production of goods for export all have social and economic value for the nation... Economists literally do not understand this, and pride themselves on not understanding it."

This cuts straight to the rot at the heart of modern economics. It doesn't matter whether they're colored in blue, red, or yellow & black—today's economists fashion themselves as priests in a temple most people can't enter, then pontificate about free trade as though the real world operates on their chalkboards.

The trouble is they've abandoned reality for ideology. They only model frictionless markets in a world where nations, borders, families, and actual human beings still matter. This isn't merely ridiculous...

It's intellectual malpractice dressed up in mathematical clothing.

Their fantasy has little connection to how economies function for working people.

Thanks for the analysis, Oren. Someone needs to speak plainly about what they do.

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