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ban nock's avatar

What advocates of low wage labor would argue is..... Alright, make everyone here legal and give visas to a couple million contract workers per year.

I recently started reading a substack called the Center for Working Class Politics. Funded by Jacobin I think. They get that labor like predistribution, but they don't seem to understand labor supply. I don't know if unions can ever shake off needing the votes of illegal workers.

Kurt's avatar

what do illegal workers vote on?

ban nock's avatar

to unionize or not. If 20% of workers are illegal, their vote on unionization can be crucial.

Kurt's avatar

And where is the evidence that they are consistently and clearly more inclined to vote yes, creating this alleged need?

ban nock's avatar

not interested in searching for it, but help yourself. For anyone that follows the issue it is long accepted.

Autonomous Truck(er)s's avatar

Any union who is pro mass migration deserves to go out of business.

ban nock's avatar

After responding to Kurt upthread I searched using Google AI at the right end of the search bar. AFL/CIO for one, also teamsters. Not most of the construction trades but I did know someone in WA working union electricity. They give all kinds of reasons, but ultimately the more workers wanting a job, the stronger the position of the companies doing the hiring, the lower wages will go. It's like supporting scabs.

Some teamsters unions have labeled themselves sanctuary unions. Took me 20 seconds to search. I have to wonder about Kurt. Doesn't like unions, or maybe workers?

Kurt's avatar

No such data exists.

Brian Villanueva's avatar

Does Josh Hawley really think a federal law requiring yet another poster to be stuck up in the company breakroom is actually going to do anything?

John Olson's avatar

"unauthorized worker"? You mean, illegal alien?

Steve Shannon's avatar

Was Cook’s duty to America (per the piece cited) or to his shareholders (per Milton Friedman). A lot of shareholders would pick the latter, no?

Mike Paranzino's avatar

His legal/fiduciary duty is to his shareholders. BUT: the government's duty is to all Americans, not Apple or Big Tech or just the one-third of Americans with non-trivial exposure to the stock market. Apple sells out American workers and replaces them with low-wage Chinese? Then hit them with tariffs equal to the profits that result. Throw in aggressive antitrust enforcement; reform of the tax code to reverse the gifts they paid Congress to enact for them; stronger restrictions on sharing technology with our enemies; etc. The tech titans love all the benefits of living in America (and not ending up like Jack Ma, though he seems to have survived his multi-year punishment by the CCP, which could have ended ugly), but they seem happy to sell us out to line their own pockets. We need our politicians to respond in kind to those who shirk their separate duty to America, or those politicians must be sent packing by the voters.

Mike Paranzino's avatar

PS…Just saw this, WSJ Editorial, 4/28/2026: “The Chinese government in March summoned Xiao Hong and Ji Yichao, two co-founders of Manus, [from Singapore] to Beijing to discuss the company’s compliance with foreign-investment rules. They reportedly haven’t been allowed to leave the country since.”

Karl's avatar
Apr 30Edited

Maybe they’ll follow the lead of the U.S. and ship them to one of our new allies, the nations that replaced the western democracies we formerly considered friends. El Salvador, Congo, Rwanda, Ghana, South Sudan, Eswatini, et al… I doubt our other new ally, Russia, would want them.

Karl's avatar
Apr 25Edited

Agree. We could start with Don. Apple is the perfect example of what DonOrenomic's tariff regime has wrought. Enrichment of the dear leader.

The future was foreshadowed when Tim sat in the front row of Don's inaugural with his fellow billionaire tech bros. Then, a million bucks to the inaugural committee, contributions to Don's pathetic ballroom, gifts of glass/gold art, Tim's been hard at work to get those tariff exemptions...

Perhaps the most galling was his attendance at the Melania "documentary" a few hours after ICE had murdered Alex Pretti.

Meanwhile, Oren keeps promising us that it's all about the workin stiffs, a manufacturing renaissance... Uh huh.

Engineer Guy's avatar

Speaking of low road jobs, you need to make a future post about the negative role of finance on regular good manufacturing jobs (ex. First Brands. https://www.plasticsnews.com/processors/injection-molding/pn-first-brands-still-selling-toledo-molding/)