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Engineer Guy's avatar

You need to distinguish clearly between tariff's as a economic policy tool and the insane (and often counter productive way that Trump did tariff's. The two biggest examples are 1)putting a 50 % tariff on Brazil because his coup-bro is being prosecuted and 2) Putting a 35 % tariff on Canada. Note that both of these countries are NET IMPORTERS from the US and HAVE A NEGATIVE TRADE DEFICIT ! It is like guns. They are fine with trained professionals and bad when a screaming 5 year old has one. Perhaps Oren should interview someone with real knowledge of trade and tariff policies. I suggest Michael Pettis, author of “Trade Wars are Class Wars”.

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Karl's avatar
Aug 4Edited

At some point, Oren has to run out of lipstick for this pig. What rational human thinks Don has a plan, at least a plan beyond his latest gas pain induced impulse? Oren reminds me of Kevin Hassett. Make sure to watch Kev humiliate himself on the Sunday shows openly lying about the reason Don fired the BLS commish. It's tortuous. It's like watching Little Marco as he recants everything he's ever stood for-they look like the soul is being sucked outta their bodies. Spoiler alert on Kev, he avoids the real reason-because Don can't handle his economy underperforming Joepa's...such a tough guy.

It would be nice if Don and Oren could at least settle on their goals for tariffs. Is it to raise money to offset their massive deficit spending? To create leverage for better trade deals? To bring back the halcyon manufacturing days of 1970's injection molding plants? We've heard em all...they can't all be true. Please settle on one.

Tariffs won't crater the US economy. International trade is a relatively small part of our economy compared to many countries. US manufacturing, as has been the case for decades, will continue to produce record output while employing fewer and fewer people. Tariffs are just another regressive tax aimed at the working class, like so much of DonOrenomics. How else to explain the wealth transfer to plutocrats inherent in the BBB, the signature economic achievement of the "new" right?

While elites like Oren argue with fellow elites over the modest impact of taco tariffs, the BBB, the degradation of the rule of law, massive deficit spending, the shredding of alliances that could be used to confront China, deporting mass numbers of our neighbors/workers instead of criminals, the defunding of our research/science efforts, the pay to play ethos, all are more important to our economy in the long run. It speaks volumes that Oren remains silent on them-gotta salute the dear leader. But could we at least tariff Russia, Belarus, and Cuba rather than Canada and Brazil (whose only sin is prosecuting Don's fellow coup-plotter)? Taco tariffs are merely Don's latest grift, a tool to enrich the dear leader, a perfect marriage with Don's meme coin scam. You need taco tariff relief? Buy a few hundred mill of my $TRUMP coin, gimme a 747, and build me a golf course...I'll keep hoodwinking the workin stiffs that I'm doing all this in their name. Good luck America.

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